In episode 81, Chris and Emma mark four years of the podcast with a candid look at what’s changed—in themselves, their work, and their relationship to the theory.
Both faced challenges this year, and both noticed something striking: they handled it differently than they would have before. The theory has become a real-time companion rather than a post-mortem tool—dynamisms catching in the moment instead of being identified after the fact.
They discuss:
The shift from analyzing crises afterward to navigating them as they unfold
How relational resilience and genuine listening matter (with gratitude to
)What they’d do differently—never saying levels, prioritizing lived experience over expertise, better audio equipment
Plans for 2026: more episodes featuring just the two of them, deeper dives into lived experience
An announcement: they’re stepping away from the Dabrowski Congress to take a new direction
The episode ends where the theory always points: shedding what’s less like us and moving toward greater autonomy.
Resources from this episode
Dabrowski 101 (YouTube)
Ep. 72, Healing through Writing with Dr. Lil Jedynak (
)cosmic cheer squad podcast
PDA: Resistance and Resilience podcast
Connect with us
Visit the Dabrowski Center website
The Positive Disintegration YouTube Channel
Adults with Overexcitabilities group on Facebook
The Tragic Gift blog by Emma
Email us at positivedisintegration.pod@gmail.com
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