Listen now (42 min) | *Content Warning: This episode contains discussions about suicide, which may be distressing to some listeners. Click here for resources.
In episode 70, Chris and Emma talk with Dr. Stacey Freedenthal, a suicidologist, therapist, author, and professor at the University of Denver. We discuss the deeply important but often stigmatized topic of suicide.
This is part one of a two-part series that dives into the intersection of suicide and Dabrowski’s theory of positive disintegration, offering listeners tools for empathy and connection in the face of despair.
Stacey shares her personal journey with suicidality, the experiences that led her to dedicate her career to this work, and the insights she’s gained through her research, teaching, and practice.
Together, we explore the stigma surrounding suicidal thoughts, the ways people can hide their pain, and how well-intentioned responses often fall short. Stacey emphasizes the need for what she calls “brave listening”—creating a safe space for honest conversations without judgment or quick fixes. Chris and Emma also reflect on their own experiences and share perspectives on navigating these tough but crucial discussions.
I've never heard anyone else say this in this way, so similar to my own experiences: "I *I* didn't want to breathe but my body did... I don't want to die, I want to stop hurting."
Holding this close to my heart as I empathize with anyone struggling with suicidality (or any number of other struggles and dependencies 💓)
Also all this about seeking help and not being heard even saying the thoughts aloud, having people just laugh it off (oh sarcasm right?) and who seeks support and actually gets it... Eager to hear part 2.
I've never heard anyone else say this in this way, so similar to my own experiences: "I *I* didn't want to breathe but my body did... I don't want to die, I want to stop hurting."
Holding this close to my heart as I empathize with anyone struggling with suicidality (or any number of other struggles and dependencies 💓)
Also all this about seeking help and not being heard even saying the thoughts aloud, having people just laugh it off (oh sarcasm right?) and who seeks support and actually gets it... Eager to hear part 2.